सदस्यः:Vibhijain/Logs

[13:00] == MikeLynch [75c0d2c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.192.210.194] has joined #wikipedia-sa [13:00] == mode/#wikipedia-sa [+ns] by rowling.freenode.net [13:04] == Vibhijain_ [0e622746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.39.70] has joined #wikipedia-sa [13:04] == Vibhijain_ [0e622746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.39.70] has quit [Client Quit] [13:05] == Vibhijain_ [0e622746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.39.70] has joined #wikipedia-sa [13:05] <Vibhijain_> hi [13:05] <@MikeLynch> hey [13:06] <Vibhijain_> i wanna discuss some issues [13:06] <@MikeLynch> go on [13:06] <Vibhijain_> first is transiliration [13:06] <@MikeLynch> note that a log of this discussion will be put up on wiki [13:06] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:06] <@MikeLynch> ok go on [13:06] <Vibhijain_> our prsent transiliration tool is difficult to use [13:07] <Vibhijain_> isn't it [13:07] <@MikeLynch> which are you using...inscript? [13:07] <Vibhijain_> hmmm [13:07] <Vibhijain_> wait [13:08] <Vibhijain_> the one which is used in edit box [13:08] <Vibhijain_> http://specials.msn.co.in/ilit/Hindi.aspx [13:08] <Vibhijain_> we need something lik this [13:08] <@MikeLynch> this seems to be pretty good. it is used in most other indic wikipedias [13:08] <Vibhijain_> the script changes whn we press space [13:08] <Vibhijain_> its easier to use [13:09] <@MikeLynch> well, no it seems to be more complex. [13:09] <@MikeLynch> if you do a mistake, you have to delete the whole thing and start over [13:09] <Vibhijain_> na [13:09] <Vibhijain_> its easier [13:09] <Vibhijain_> less splling mistakes [13:10] <Vibhijain_> na [13:10] <@MikeLynch> contact shijualex or junaidpv for that. [13:10] <@MikeLynch> and discuss with them [13:10] <Vibhijain_> pronouncation mistakes r less [13:10] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:11] <Vibhijain_> the other issue is th scond crat [13:11] <Vibhijain_> whats ur opinion? [13:11] <@MikeLynch> harshavs could be good for that [13:11] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:12] <Vibhijain_> but do h ants that [13:12] <Vibhijain_> he wants [13:12] <@MikeLynch> ask him that's all [13:12] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:12] <Vibhijain_> now th policies [13:13] <Vibhijain_> we need to make our own policies [13:13] <@MikeLynch> yes [13:13] <Vibhijain_> what to start from? [13:14] <Vibhijain_> please tell [13:14] <Vibhijain_> we need to mak our local policies [13:15] <Vibhijain_> hich policy to start from? [13:15] <@MikeLynch> first on articles. [13:15] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:15] <@MikeLynch> something like: the article format [13:15] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:15] <Vibhijain_> what to include [13:16] <@MikeLynch> how to write first line, how to include images [13:16] <@MikeLynch> what to write [13:16] <@MikeLynch> what not to write [13:16] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:17] <Vibhijain_> we also need to exclude matrials not suitabl for teens [13:17] <Vibhijain_> in en wiki, its in large no. [13:17] <@MikeLynch> what kind of materials are you talking about? [13:17] <@MikeLynch> some examples in enwiki please [13:18] <Vibhijain_> can't tell. please understand. :) [13:18] <Vibhijain_> mnay articles r on thos topics [13:19] <Vibhijain_> we r trying to target sanskrit gurukuls, we need to exclud them and not to include them [13:19] <@MikeLynch> if the article is good, and not offensive, it should be retained [13:19] <Vibhijain_> i mean by those topics [13:19] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:20] <Vibhijain_> now the featured articles [13:20] <@MikeLynch> absolutely not. we should not censor wikipedia [13:20] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:20] <@MikeLynch> go o [13:20] <Vibhijain_> how to bring that concept on sa wiki [13:20] <Vibhijain_> i need everybody's help for it [13:21] <Vibhijain_> we need to make a policy for it [13:21] <Vibhijain_> a criteria [13:21] <Vibhijain_> and hav to decide how will choose them or judge them [13:22] <Vibhijain_> what u say? [13:22] <@MikeLynch> any article which is complete, [13:22] <@MikeLynch> informative [13:22] <@MikeLynch> has relevant images [13:22] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:23] <Vibhijain_> tell how to create th fatured article page [13:23] <Vibhijain_> its topicon [13:23] <Vibhijain_> etc. ? [13:23] <@MikeLynch> i'll do that [13:23] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:23] <Vibhijain_> thanks [13:23] <Vibhijain_> i want to ask one thing [13:24] <Vibhijain_> our wiki passes all conditions for having itself as one of th projects supported by Hummble [13:24] <@MikeLynch> whats that? [13:26] <Vibhijain_> do not rmember its corrct name [13:26] <Vibhijain_> u only told me about it [13:26] <Vibhijain_> its a vanal fighting tool [13:26] <Vibhijain_> i mean vandal [13:27] <Vibhijain_> its huggle [13:27] <Vibhijain_> got it [13:27] <Vibhijain_> how to enabl it on sa wiki? [13:27] <Vibhijain_> we need to contact a huggle dveloper [13:27] <@MikeLynch> its useless on sa wiki [13:28] <Vibhijain_> oh [13:28] <Vibhijain_> we needs some gadgets [13:28] <Vibhijain_> here is only Wikibhasa [13:28] <Vibhijain_> i o not know how to use it [13:29] <Vibhijain_> like twinkle [13:29] <Vibhijain_> HotCat [13:29] <Vibhijain_> ProveIt [13:29] <Vibhijain_> i tried to enable them [13:31] <@MikeLynch> wait [13:31] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:31] <@MikeLynch> will be bck in 5 min [13:32] <Vibhijain_> k [13:35] <@MikeLynch> back [13:35] <@MikeLynch> yes, hotcat and twinkle will be useful... [13:35] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:35] <Vibhijain_> i just tried in meantime to enabl provit [13:35] <@MikeLynch> i know a person who has info about it, will ask him and do it [13:35] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:36] <Vibhijain_> now the untranslated messages [13:36] <Vibhijain_> we hav just 2 translators of sanskrit at beta wiki [13:36] <Vibhijain_> mahitgar and me [13:37] <@MikeLynch> okie. I think a person who knows sanskrit really well should be put there [13:38] <Vibhijain_> i contacted hrishi.kb tommorow [13:38] <Vibhijain_> he said that he will start translating them [13:38] <Vibhijain_> bhawani also is going to start translating [13:39] <@MikeLynch> okay. That's great news [13:39] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:40] <Vibhijain_> the next issue is media [13:41] <Vibhijain_> i get thousand rsults when [13:41] <Vibhijain_> i typoe malayalam wiki or any othr indian one on googl news [13:41] <Vibhijain_> but no whn i type sanskrit wiki [13:42] <Vibhijain_> we need to have a good media influence [13:42] <@MikeLynch> as editors, we can do little about it. [13:42] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:43] <Vibhijain_> but i have some ideas [13:43] <@MikeLynch> go on [13:43] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:43] <Vibhijain_> we need to discuss about sa wiki on the Wikimediaindia-l Digest [13:44] <Vibhijain_> this will help us build a good influence [13:44] <@MikeLynch> and what do you plan on discussing there? [13:44] <Vibhijain_> a major change has com on this wiki since march [13:45] <Vibhijain_> articl count, community, admins, all have incerased [13:45] <Vibhijain_> w can discuss that [13:46] <Vibhijain_> we need to hav mor collaborations [13:46] <@MikeLynch> we can put up a note when we cross 5000 articles, that's it. the mailing list is not for casual discussions [13:46] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:46] <Vibhijain_> this is what i was thinking [13:46] <Vibhijain_> 5000 articles will b a mojor milestone [13:46] <Vibhijain_> :) [13:47] <Vibhijain_> can we add the news of th facbook page on the community news [13:48] <@MikeLynch> yes [13:48] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:49] <Vibhijain_> next issue is community [13:49] <Vibhijain_> how to grow a community [13:49] <Vibhijain_> its the most important issue [13:50] <@MikeLynch> that will fall under outreach. We need to publicise well [13:50] <Vibhijain_> how? [13:50] <@MikeLynch> in sanskrit universities [13:50] <Vibhijain_> i always post links to sa wiki on my fb wall [13:50] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:50] <@MikeLynch> in schools [13:51] <Vibhijain_> right [13:51] <Vibhijain_> but we need to publise in schools with only sanskrit as th third language [13:51] <Vibhijain_> we need to target the nepali and th karanataka pople [13:52] <@MikeLynch> not really. In karnataka all schools have sanskrit as first language [13:52] <Vibhijain_> oh [13:52] <Vibhijain_> here in delhi we hav sanskrit, frnch, german, russian, spanish, chinse, japanese as third languag [13:53] <Vibhijain_> each school hav 1-3 thir languages [13:53] <@MikeLynch> well, yes, in cbse and icse schools, we also have all those languages [13:53] <Vibhijain_> studnt choose what thjy want [13:53] <@MikeLynch> in state syllabus schools, sanskrit is 1st language [13:53] <Vibhijain_> great!@ [13:54] <Vibhijain_> how can we have collaborations like th samskrita bharati one [13:55] <@MikeLynch> we have to go to universities. [13:55] <Vibhijain_> we need ldrs like u for it [13:55] <Vibhijain_> i mean elders [13:55] <Vibhijain_> !! [13:55] <@MikeLynch> i am working on that. Will plan more in the next month when i am free [13:56] <Vibhijain_> kk [13:56] <Vibhijain_> now lets about other projects [13:56] <Vibhijain_> wikisource and wikibooks [13:56] <Vibhijain_> and iktionary an incubator wikiquote [13:57] <Vibhijain_> we need admins on the other three projcts [13:57] <@MikeLynch> that should be easier to contribute to. [13:57] <@MikeLynch> yes [13:57] <@MikeLynch> it has good potential, better than wikipedia [13:57] <Vibhijain_> will samskrita bharati contribut to them [13:57] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:57] <@MikeLynch> as of now, no they are not contributing [13:58] <@MikeLynch> but we can ask them to [13:58] <Vibhijain_> ya [13:58] <Vibhijain_> i plan to give tmporary adminship to the main representative of Samskrita bharati [13:58] <Vibhijain_> needs ur approval [13:59] <@MikeLynch> and what will be the use of that? [13:59] <Vibhijain_> he/sh will manag all th articles mad by their people [13:59] <Vibhijain_> they have a better knowledge [13:59] <@MikeLynch> manage as in? [14:00] <Vibhijain_> see hat to delete, should any member of sams. bharati b blocked [14:00] <Vibhijain_> but first they should start contributing [14:01] <Vibhijain_> then we will think about that [14:01] <@MikeLynch> no need to do that. they are contributing as individual contributors only [14:01] <Vibhijain_> we also keep this fact in mind that sa wiki should not bcome a advertisememnt hub for samskrita baharati [14:01] <@MikeLynch> lets think about it when they actually contribute [14:01] <@MikeLynch> yes [14:02] <Vibhijain_> isn't it? [14:02] <Vibhijain_> ya [14:02] <Vibhijain_> no the refrences [14:02] <Vibhijain_> do we rally need to refer th articles [14:02] <@MikeLynch> absolutely [14:02] <@MikeLynch> that's the core concept of wikipedia [14:03] <Vibhijain_> please tell about it [14:03] <Vibhijain_> but do we need it for points like slumdog millionair is a oscar winning movie [14:03] <@MikeLynch> that is exactly the stuff we need references for [14:03] <Vibhijain_> kk [14:04] <@MikeLynch> we can't just say that some movie is oscar winning... [14:04] <Vibhijain_> now lets talk about th main page [14:05] <Vibhijain_> is it विकिपीडिय or विकिपीडिया [14:06] <Vibhijain_> ?? [14:06] <@MikeLynch> as of now, its the first one [14:06] == Vibhijain_ [0e622746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.39.70] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [14:07] == Vibhijain [0e622746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.98.39.70] has joined #wikipedia-sa [14:07] <Vibhijain> just som intrnt prolm [14:07] <@MikeLynch> np [14:08] <Vibhijain> please tell hich is corrct [14:08] <@MikeLynch> first one [14:08] <Vibhijain> kk [14:08] <@MikeLynch> विकिपीडिय [14:08] <Vibhijain> so i will change th splling [14:09] <Vibhijain> is any othr correction rquird in th main page [14:09] <@MikeLynch> picture of the day [14:09] <Vibhijain> the shubashitani and TFP updatrs automatically [14:09] <@MikeLynch> why is it needed? [14:10] <Vibhijain> just fills th main page [14:10] <Vibhijain> givs a new comer a senc that there is som activity on this wiki [14:10] <@MikeLynch> if it is kept just to fill the page, then it is useless [14:10] <Vibhijain> but th picture changes automatically so no need to chang it always [14:11] <@MikeLynch> the pictures are from common [14:11] <Vibhijain> there is no problm ith it [14:11] <Vibhijain> we can keep it [14:11] <Vibhijain> its on evry wiki's main page [14:11] <@MikeLynch> okay [14:12] <Vibhijain> also the subhasitani will updat automatically [14:12] <Vibhijain> so no need to updat it always [14:12] <@MikeLynch> it keeps repeating after 30 days? [14:13] <@MikeLynch> whats the use? [14:13] <Vibhijain> well [14:13] <Vibhijain> its easier [14:13] <Vibhijain> again maintains th main page [14:13] <Vibhijain> we hav to do that, will updat it always when we will hav a good com munity [14:14] <Vibhijain> till then, lets do that only [14:14] <@MikeLynch> very well [14:14] <Vibhijain> at least 1 will not remain for 1 month or so [14:15] <Vibhijain> any thing left? [14:16] <@MikeLynch> nope [14:16] <Vibhijain> kk [14:16] <Vibhijain> lets put this consrvation on the wiki [14:16] <Vibhijain> and i will put its final results [14:16] <Vibhijain> thanks [14:17] <@MikeLynch> yep