सदस्यसम्भाषणम्:MikeLynch/Archive1

I have been contributing to sanskrit wikipedia for over a year now. I possess a good knowledge of Sanskrit and do my best to write articles for the sanskrit wikipedia and a few of the articles that I contributed have been featured on the main page कालिदासः, गुप्त-साम्राज्यम्, मौर्य साम्राज्यम्,मगधः, आर्यभटः and गङ्गा नदी. There a few points that I would like to discuss. 1. I believe that a consensus is required as to whether article names are to end in the nominative as in कालिदासः or just the stem as in कालिदास 2. I also wish to know how non sanskrit words are to be transliterated 3. I wish to know who has the right to edit the main page and how this right may be obtained since the main page hosts certain errors and omissions. 4. I would also like to know the path that a young wiki like the sanskrit wikipedia should grow, by featuring content rich articles like the ones above or by starting out with several articles with a single line of description and expanding it later Awaiting your reply Thanking you

Sarpasarpeti101

प्रिय विकिपीडियायां भवतः स्वागतम्।,

विकिपीडिया तु एकः स्वतन्त्र-विश्वविज्ञानकोशः। अयं हि अखिलविश्ववतः योगदातृभिः रच्यते। संस्कृतम् तु एका प्राचीना समृद्धा च भाषा। प्राचीना भूत्वाऽपि भाषैषा नवीनपरिस्थितिषु अपि नूतनान् शब्दान् रचयितुं नूतनान् भावान् च व्यंजयितुं शक्ताऽस्ति। अस्मिन् क्षेत्रे संस्कृतस्य सामर्थ्यं एतावत् अस्ति यत् सर्वाः अपि प्रमुखाः भारतीयाः भाषाः नवीन शब्दान् संस्कृतात् एव ग्रह्णन्ति। भारतस्य कस्यचिदपि लेखकस्य चिन्तकस्य वा दृष्टिकोणं संस्कृतस्य प्राचीन चिन्तन-परम्परया प्रभावितम् भवति।

अतः संस्कृस्य उन्नतौ सम्पूर्ण भारतीय वाङ्मयस्य उन्नतिः भवेत्। अतएव संस्कृतस्य ज्ञानसमुद्रं सदा अद्यतनः नवीनश्च स्यात् इति कृत्वा अत्र संस्कृतविकिपीडियायां जगतः विविधक्षेत्राणां ज्ञानं संस्कृतेन लिखितुं प्रयत्नं क्रियते।

विकिपीडियायां लेखन-समये यदि भवतः मनसि संस्कृत-भाषा विषये काचित् समस्या वा प्रश्नं वा आगच्छति तदा भवान् अन्यान् सदस्यान् प्रष्टुं शक्नोति।

संभाषण-पृष्ठेषु किंचिदपि लेखनात् पश्चात् स्वहस्ताक्षरान् अवश्यमेव योजयतु। तदर्थं भवान् -- ~~~~ इति लिखतु, पृष्ठस्य रक्षणपश्चात् हस्ताक्षराः स्वयमेव तत्र आगमिष्यन्ति।

आशास्महे यत् विकिपीडिया-सान्निध्ये भवान् आनन्दं प्राप्स्यति। --Mayur १५:२९, १८ जनुवरि २०११ (UTC)

धन्यवादाः स्वरूप् | Harshavs १९:४०, ९ मार्च् २०११ (UTC)

पुनः धन्यवादाः | Harshavs २०:१३, १६ मार्च् २०११ (UTC)

Please tell your views

Please tell your views on my request on administration here. Vaibhav Jain ०७:१९, १७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Please Contribute

Please support Wikiquote Sanskrit. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiquote_Sanskrit

You can also contribute on th development wiki. http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wq/sa

Vaibhav Jain १०:२४, १७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Embassy for Sanskrit

Recently I saw that there is no Sanskrit Embassy (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Embassy). I would like to create the embassy/ would like to see the embassy created. We could ask the active members of this community to nominate an ambassador. If not, I would be glad to become one. I am looking for help from you with regards to whether you already have such experience creating an embassy or you have some background about it? Can you please help/guide me on that?

Thanks in Advance. रामप्रियः ०७:५९, १९ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this. I will look into this, and what it means for the Ambassador, and the community. I'm very glad to see I already have two of you up for the ambassadorship!

PS: Vaibhav, I really appreciate your enthusiasm! I hope you will go on making content contributions (as in writing articles, repairing them etc). Regards, Yes Michael? •^Talk १६:५३, १९ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

I can become a ambassador

Well I am interested in becoming an ambassador. Pleas tell me the procedure. Vaibhav Jain ११:०४, १९ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Do you know?

Do you know who is the youngest administrator on all Wikimedia projects. I am currently 13 years old. Hope you will have a good day. why don't you try for administration? Vaibhav Jain ०९:५२, २० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Please tell your views

Please tell your views on my request. http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A3%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%A7%E0%A4%95#My_new_request

I have replied

I have replied to the question. Vaibhav Jain १२:३६, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Th second question has also been replied. Thanks. Vaibhav Jain १२:५६, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Thanks

I have set me and Harshavs as administrators. I have added Mahitgar for marathi an mayur for hindi. Can i add you for kannada. please tell if you can also provide help for other languages. Vaibhav Jain १३:४९, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Well, before adding anyone, it would be better if you could ask them once. We don't want an embarrassing situation later. I've already added myself for Kannada. Yes Michael? •^Talk १३:५४, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Harshav was ready to be a part of it. Users like mahitgar are not active. I don't think that they will have any problem as it is silent wiki and they will have no interference. Vaibhav Jain १४:०७, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Mahitgar and Mayur are active in their wikis (mr and hi) I suppose. I guess its OK anyway. Yes Michael? •^Talk १४:०९, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Complete?

Have you asked all the questions regarding my request? Vaibhav Jain १४:१३, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

That's it from me for now. I am undecided on support; I have notified the local bureaucrat about your request. It is upto him to decide. Yes Michael? •^Talk १४:१६, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

The local bureaucrat is HPN or something like that. I think he is not active right now. I requested in the meta but they said that you have to make a new request at the wiki and have it open for at least 7 days. they said me to make a new request at meta after it and if there are no votes for both support and oppose, they will grant me temporary administration. Vaibhav Jain १४:२३, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Yes, I have notified HPN privately as he seems to be inactive on wiki. Yes Michael? •^Talk १४:२७, २३ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

I guess you may now go ahead and place a request for temporary adminship on Meta. Yes Michael? •^Talk १३:३०, २६ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Main Page

Please take a look at this. I think it would be a fantastic main page if modified.

योजकः:शिवः/मुखपृष्ठम्

Vaibhav Jain १३:४१, २४ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

While it is certainly good, I would be generally against any major changes to the Main Page yet. The thing is that Sanskrit Wiki needs more contributors now; The main page that you suggests is good, but only after we have a considerable community. We need to encourage new editors, and the Main page is the best way to do it. I think our current Main page does the job now. Yes Michael? •^Talk १३:२८, २६ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Thanks for the opinion. As about the Om on the main page, it is also on the Sanskrit Wikibooks, so I just added it. Sorry! Vaibhav Jain १५:१२, २६ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

No need to apologise. The "Om" is generally considered a religious symbol, and that is not really appropriate, especially on the Main page. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:१६, २६ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

This is for helping me

You definitely deserves a barnstar swaroop bhaiya for helping me always. by the way, i have send you a request on fb, you have a pic with a woman nah? Vaibhav Jain १५:२१, २६ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Disagree

You said that stub articles are not good for Wikipedia. I have a different view on it. As Sanskrit Grammar is little tough, it is difficult to create long articles. During one of his recent visits to India, Jimmy Wales mentioned how stub articles on the populated places in United States drove the growth of English Wikipedia. People hailing from these places would google their hometowns and arrive at Wikipedia. They would then start adding the missing details to these articles, becoming active contributors in the process. Currently we have a mission of 5000 articles on this wiki. Sanskrit Wiki has done better than other wikis of dead languages of its age but can do better. Thanks for your opinion. Vaibhav Jain १२:४४, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

There are billions of English users, and even millions of Hindi users. Sanskrit only has a handful. We cannot realistically foresee a large community like English Wiki, and hence, a stub article serves no real purpose. Yes Michael? •^Talk १२:४९, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

My two cents on this topic. I disagree on the part that stub articles don't serve a purpose. I do not think we have a Sanskrit editor who can converse in Sanskrit. Most of us find it difficult to write a full paragraph at the same speed that we might take for English or our Mother tongue. Stubs can be the first stepping stone towards creating large articles and at the same time increasing your procifiency and hold over the language. Also agree that stubs left as it is will not serve any purpose. Stubs should be improved upon and made into a full fledged article. I think for most of us, if not for me atleast, the incentive is in seeing the article count increase. A small award to ask for I think. Maybe we should pledge to contribute atleast 5 full fledged articles per 100 stubs created. - रामप्रियः १३:३२, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Hmmm, maybe. Yes, I know that it is difficult to create big articles, and that they are the stepping stone. But what tends to happen is that once we have a good article count, we lay back and sit still. I know that the article count is an incentive, but it should not mean that we should compromise on quality. If we go back and expand all of our stubs, then it should be fine I think. Appreciate everyone for their views! :) Yes Michael? •^Talk १३:३८, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Yes, that is what I fear too, including about myself, that once we achieve a target, we should not stop at it, but create larger articles and get proficient in the language. On a side note, shouldn't we be discussing such larger topics on the Community Portal ? - रामप्रियः १३:४२, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Technically, Yes. But this was meant to be Vaibhav's reply. The conversation is now broken into pieces. I think it should remain here. It will become messy if we move it all now. Yes Michael? •^Talk १३:४६, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

(od) By the way, to make it clear, I was assuming that the people writing these articles actually know Sanskrit very well. It was in reply to Sarpasarpeti101, who probably knows Sanskrit very well. I think Harshavs also knows it very well. Others like me can continue creating stubs I guess! Yes Michael? •^Talk १९:२५, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Good idea Harshavs. Vaibhav Jain १३:३९, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for telling. I am new to it, will take care afterwards. Vaibhav Jain १२:५१, २७ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Please Go Here

Please go to विकिपीडियासम्भाषणम्:प्रशासक Vaibhav Jain १०:४९, २८ एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

I know how to block

I know how to block, but i can't understand what is softblock.

There are four options: खाते का निर्माण रोकें

	 इस सदस्यद्वारा इस्तेमाल किया गया आखिरी आईपी एड्रेस और यहां से आगे इस सदस्य द्वारा इस्तेमालमें लाये जाने वाले सभी एड्रेस ब्लॉक करें।
	 सदस्य को इ-मेल भेजने से रोकें
	 इस सदस्य के सदस्य तथा वार्ता पृष्ठ पर ध्यान रखें
	 अवरोधित होने पर भी इस सदस्य को अपना वार्ता पन्ना बदलने दें

Please tell which ones i have to choose to have a softblock. Vaibhav Jain १५:३९, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

From my understanding of Hindi, I'd say the fourth one. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:४२, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Time?

What period of time should i choose? Vaibhav Jain १५:४८, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Indefinite. State the reason as: Offensive username. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:५१, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

I have choose 6 months and also told him. Let see if he changed his username. Vaibhav Jain १५:५२, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

No, he cannot change his username. Block indefinitely. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:५३, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Excellent. Now inform him on his talk page that the username is offensive. Keep it simple and short. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:५९, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Already done. I am feeling very shame about such Indians who are making fun of his country {see kw:कुत्ता अंग्रेज़ी}. I have requested global block for him. Vaibhav Jain १६:१४, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

You should come to enwiki some time. I see loads of such users everyday :P Yes Michael? •^Talk १६:२८, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

Its easy to deal with such users with sysop rights. Thats why I requested global rollback. I will try to find them and request block. After some time, I will request for rollback. Vaibhav Jain १६:४१, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

No, it will be quite some time before you will be granted Global Rollback. Try not to pester the stewards at meta too much. Yes Michael? •^Talk १६:४५, ३० एप्रिल् २०११ (UTC)

वार्ताः

I think we do not have a active community to update the वार्ताः template on th main page. I think we can use it to tell the latest happening in this wiki like Sanskrit Wikipedia Embassy Created and other. This will make the new users think that this is not a silent wiki. Vaibhav Jain ११:५२, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

On the contrary, it will highlight the fact that there is no active community. All this embassy creation, though important, are trivial in building a Wiki by itself. The Wiki should be known for its content; not for anything else. Yes Michael? •^Talk १२:००, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

But this section has not been updated for a long Time and we need people good in Sanskrit to update it. we can replace it with any other option. Vaibhav Jain १२:०४, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Yeah, that's true. Lets try and come up with better ideas. Yes Michael? •^Talk १२:०७, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please HELP

Can you tell in which year was this wiki founded? Vaibhav Jain १२:३३, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

I think 2004. Yes Michael? •^Talk १२:४७, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Can you tell me what is a online ambassador and can i become it? Vaibhav Jain १४:३४, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

There are a series of programs currently in the United States, where university students edit Wikipedia as a part of their course content. Details are found at en:WP:USPP. An Online Ambassador guides the students in their articles. Looking at your edits on the English Wikipedia, I do not think that you will qualify for that yet. You need way more content contributions on enwiki to qualify for that. Right now, in India, the program is in a pilot in Pune. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:१०, १ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Can you tell me the best way to find Vandals like that one which we blocked on enwiki? Vaibhav Jain ११:३८, २ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Get rollback rights (after some 1000 edits probably), and use Huggle. Easiest way to catch vandals. Yes Michael? •^Talk १२:१५, २ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please tell your views

Please have a look on विकिपीडियासम्भाषणम्:प्रशासक#REMOVAL_OF_HPN. Vaibhav Jain १२:३४, २ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats! According to Alexa, Sanskrit Wikipedia has been seen more than other Indians Wikis like Hindi, Marathi, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Oriya, Bengali, and many more in recent times. :) Vaibhav Jain १२:४८, ३ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please tell your views

Please have a look on it and make necessary changes

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tell_us_about_Sanskrit_Wikipedia Vaibhav Jain १३:३०, ३ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please Support

Please support this. Vaibhav Jain १३:३६, ४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Scholarships for Wikimania 2011 are already given out. The deadline ended in January. Good luck for 2012. Yes Michael? •^Talk १६:१८, ४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

BTW, its supposed to be a submission; abstract writing has to be refined a lot. You need a lot of practice to write an abstract, let alone a presentation. It is not a way to publicise Sanskrit Wikipedia or anything. Yes Michael? •^Talk १६:२६, ४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

I saw submissions related to Hindustani and ancient languages so I added this request. Vaibhav Jain १०:३८, ५ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

In any case, you have to actually be there at Haifa to deliver the talk. Good luck for Washington. MikeLynch Public २०:२४, ८ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Good news

I have got reply from Samskrita Bharati. Please tell what should I reply? Vaibhav Jain ०५:२२, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please comment on the IP blocks on your talk page. Tell me about this; how did you contact them? Yes Michael? •^Talk ०५:२६, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

I contacted them from their website. Vaibhav Jain ०५:२८, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Hmm, is this the Samskrita Bharati in Bangalore?

Look IP blocks are really important. Kindly let me know why you blocked them. Yes Michael? •^Talk ०५:३०, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

It was don because of some extreme Vandalism. Please tell what to reply. Vaibhav Jain ०५:३३, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Is this the Samskrita Bharati in Bangalore? Yes Michael? •^Talk ०५:३७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

It was Samskrita Bharati, that one only which has a branch in Bangalore. I have also visited its branch in Delhi once. Please tell can I get free membership of Wikimedia India {by scholarship, etc.} Vaibhav Jain ०५:४४, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Currently, I believe there is no free membership. Yes Michael? •^Talk ०६:००, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Please continue the discussion about Samskrutha Bharathi here http://sa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D. It will benefit the community. - रामप्रियः १०:५६, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

WikiBhasa

I have activated WikiBhasa on this wiki. Vaibhav Jain १५:०५, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

Pleas tell how to use it. Vaibhav Jain १५:०७, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)

I'm sorry; I don't have a deep knowledge of scripts used on Indic Wikis. Try asking Shijualex. Yes Michael? •^Talk १५:४४, १४ मेय् २०११ (UTC)